The first half of the season didn't catch me that much. I thought about whether I've grown out of the show. But the second half was pretty refreshing; the season finale is nothing short of a blast. I like the darkness of it. The notion of Joe integrating his shadow. It feels like the ending is not trying to please anybody. It is stone cold as it should be. Most of the cast of the first half of the season is gone which makes it almost feel like a new season, without all the murder mystery vibe that I personally wasn't a fan of. It was like the heart of You was beating again and made the whole thing come back to life. I was actually engaged with the characters again, which created tension, rage, and all the emotions that attracted me to You in the first place. It really was an experience as it was in season one. Great comeback. Enjoy your night!
30 Reviews
Things went downhill in the end.
FinleyKolapo9 March 2023
Warning: Spoilers
Joe should've met his fate in the water. That's it. That would have been a good way to end his twisted journey.
But instead, the writers decided to pull a fast one and make him survive and escape with the help of another twisted girlfriend, then 'boom boom boom' NYC here he comes.
I get that he's the main character. Still, He was written to be too untouchable. At this rate, he's going to get a presidential pardon in the next season's ending.
The Nadia-Marienne's plan reveal was great, but it was ruined in the very end because Joe somehow won again.
I really hope the next season would be the last one , because it seems like they are dragging out the story at this point. I don't think there is anything more interesting or surprising that can happen with Joe and his obsession.
But instead, the writers decided to pull a fast one and make him survive and escape with the help of another twisted girlfriend, then 'boom boom boom' NYC here he comes.
I get that he's the main character. Still, He was written to be too untouchable. At this rate, he's going to get a presidential pardon in the next season's ending.
The Nadia-Marienne's plan reveal was great, but it was ruined in the very end because Joe somehow won again.
I really hope the next season would be the last one , because it seems like they are dragging out the story at this point. I don't think there is anything more interesting or surprising that can happen with Joe and his obsession.
A step in the right direction.
elias-3401310 March 2023
Warning: Spoilers
The first half of season 4 was mediocre at best. The characters felt unnatural, following the typical tropes that every character must have now for some reason. Whilst the plot of a serial killer in London didn't seem that all realistic. However, the second half really shines and shows what potential You could be if taken more seriously. The twist of Joe actually having disassociate disorder is definitely something I didn't see coming but it works really well in filling in the blanks as it made no sense for Rhys to be the one teasing Joe this whole time. My only complaint is how easy it was for Joe to speak his truth and become known to the world. Why didn't Marienne or Nadia speak up and let people know. Seems like a retcon to get the show back in the states.
Justice for Nadia!
mrazovabarbora29 March 2023
I found myself thinking its boring somewhere in the middle of the 4th season, but then the last two or three episodes came.
Although we already saw this 'character development' in countless movies I still found the ending pretty decent. The very last few minutes were actually amazing.
However the only reason I came here is to just say one thing: Nadia's storyline broke my heart </3.. It was so cold and...and...
Also why are six hundred characters needed for a review? Would I get a grade for that or what? If I need to write six hundred characters I better get some credit for it! Aaaand done!
Although we already saw this 'character development' in countless movies I still found the ending pretty decent. The very last few minutes were actually amazing.
However the only reason I came here is to just say one thing: Nadia's storyline broke my heart </3.. It was so cold and...and...
Also why are six hundred characters needed for a review? Would I get a grade for that or what? If I need to write six hundred characters I better get some credit for it! Aaaand done!
Redemption
duncanbhenry10 March 2023
After a seemingly random part 1, with a poor/unrealistic storyline, uninspiring new characters and a departure from many of things we have come to know/like about Joe in S1-3; part 2 had an uphill battle to redeem the series.
And despite its flaws, it would be fair to say Part 2 saved the season. Many of the major issues with part 1 were addressed, the writing was much better, and although its still unrealistic, it was significantly more entertaining. But most importantly, Joe was Joe again. Overall, 'You' isn't a thought provoking, award winning TV show, but it was once again binge worthy, which is all we as viewers expect.
And despite its flaws, it would be fair to say Part 2 saved the season. Many of the major issues with part 1 were addressed, the writing was much better, and although its still unrealistic, it was significantly more entertaining. But most importantly, Joe was Joe again. Overall, 'You' isn't a thought provoking, award winning TV show, but it was once again binge worthy, which is all we as viewers expect.
Teflon Joe!
burntorange14 March 2023
Warning: Spoilers
Yes it's not believable that Joe/Jonathan could commit so many murders, particularly in the second half of season 4 when he could no longer deflect onto Rhys, and not he caught. I mean are there any homicide detectives in London 🛌 besides the 2 star-struck clueless ones who partied with the suspect pool in the first half?
Started watching You because of all the buzz, and loved the first season; great chemistry with Beck and Joe and the storyline kept me interested . Not as much chemistry with Love or Marianne but I thought the addition of a child made the show more suspenseful. Have to say wasn't sure about Kate but her character grew on me and I loved that she ended up with Joe! Kate is very complicated and she plays off Joe so well; her eyes are large and light and you can see Joe getting lost in them when he looks at her.
Supporting cast was very strong, particularly actors who played Rhys and Phoebe.
I will predict that You will be renewed for a 5th and final season on Netflix. Joe is back in NYC, and now has another bookstore. The circle will be closed for Joe Goldberg next season.
Started watching You because of all the buzz, and loved the first season; great chemistry with Beck and Joe and the storyline kept me interested . Not as much chemistry with Love or Marianne but I thought the addition of a child made the show more suspenseful. Have to say wasn't sure about Kate but her character grew on me and I loved that she ended up with Joe! Kate is very complicated and she plays off Joe so well; her eyes are large and light and you can see Joe getting lost in them when he looks at her.
Supporting cast was very strong, particularly actors who played Rhys and Phoebe.
I will predict that You will be renewed for a 5th and final season on Netflix. Joe is back in NYC, and now has another bookstore. The circle will be closed for Joe Goldberg next season.
I Think This Show Needs To End
Tv-Addict199124 March 2023
Ok, I am a Fan Since Day 1 of the Show but come on.....
I Really Think this Show needs to find an End, a logical final Season and a good - or even bad - ending for Joe Goldberg.
Do It Somehow in that Style that Season 1-Characters Return and The Story goes full circle, i Think Season 4 ( both parts ) were a missstep in many ways
5 Seasons is Really Enough for a Tv Show of this Kind, sometimes less is more (:
Also Penn Badgley needs to find other stuff for Tv but better for Movies, i think he could have a great future in Hollywood and be in lots of Movies and Tv Shows
End This Tv Show with a 5. And Final Season Please.
Do It Somehow in that Style that Season 1-Characters Return and The Story goes full circle, i Think Season 4 ( both parts ) were a missstep in many ways
5 Seasons is Really Enough for a Tv Show of this Kind, sometimes less is more (:
Also Penn Badgley needs to find other stuff for Tv but better for Movies, i think he could have a great future in Hollywood and be in lots of Movies and Tv Shows
End This Tv Show with a 5. And Final Season Please.
Excellent finale
papayutanuv13 March 2023
Warning: Spoilers
I was so tired of the usual "the anti hero gets caught or dies" this finale is a breath of fresh air. I enjoyed how joe uses his genius and resources to clean the mess he made and get away with it once again. "The Death of Jonathan Moore." He says goodbye to his new identity to become Joe Goldberg once again and reveals what he has done in the past, and thinks about how to move forward. The tv interview shows that Kate is just as evil as Joe and also that Joe has no intention to stop killing, now having the benefits of wealth. You has not yet been renewed for a fifth season but Season 4 wraps up its contained narrative just as its predecessors did.
Season 4 Review
Laqshayaroraofficial10 March 2023
This season had some really good episodes in the second part, but compared to the other three seasons, it may be the weakest. I'm not saying it was a bad season, but I believe the other seasons were better. My favorite seasons are, in order, Season 2, Season 3, Season 1, and the last season, Season 4.
There were some negatives about this season. First of all, dividing the season into two parts was a mistake because the first part was average and didn't have much going on. Additionally, many spoilers of the second part were leaked before its release.
There were many nonsensical death scenes, and they weren't even entertaining. There wasn't a single camera in any public or private place where Joe killed people. It also seems silly that Joe wears a basketball cap and feels invisible, even though he's the only one wearing a cap in a public or private place.
I don't understand why they ended the third and fourth seasons with a Taylor Swift song because neither of the songs fit well with the mood of the episodes.
The love story of Kate and Joe looks a bit hard to believe. Lastly, the finale episode wasn't satisfactory.
However, there were some positives about the season. I love Rhys' character, and Lady Phoebe is really likeable, and if you binge-watch all 10 episodes without giving your mind a chance to think, you'll definitely be entertained. Also, Charlotte Richie is one of my favorite actresses, and I'm glad she's a part of the "You" series.
Although I didn't like this season that much, I still want Netflix to renew the show for a fifth season.
My suggestions for actresses for Season 5 are Elle Fanning, Alexandra Daddario, Hailee Steinfeld, Kat Dennings and Neil Tiger Free. Any of these would be great choices.
There were some negatives about this season. First of all, dividing the season into two parts was a mistake because the first part was average and didn't have much going on. Additionally, many spoilers of the second part were leaked before its release.
There were many nonsensical death scenes, and they weren't even entertaining. There wasn't a single camera in any public or private place where Joe killed people. It also seems silly that Joe wears a basketball cap and feels invisible, even though he's the only one wearing a cap in a public or private place.
I don't understand why they ended the third and fourth seasons with a Taylor Swift song because neither of the songs fit well with the mood of the episodes.
The love story of Kate and Joe looks a bit hard to believe. Lastly, the finale episode wasn't satisfactory.
However, there were some positives about the season. I love Rhys' character, and Lady Phoebe is really likeable, and if you binge-watch all 10 episodes without giving your mind a chance to think, you'll definitely be entertained. Also, Charlotte Richie is one of my favorite actresses, and I'm glad she's a part of the "You" series.
Although I didn't like this season that much, I still want Netflix to renew the show for a fifth season.
My suggestions for actresses for Season 5 are Elle Fanning, Alexandra Daddario, Hailee Steinfeld, Kat Dennings and Neil Tiger Free. Any of these would be great choices.
You Season 4 Plot Holes - The Full Rant
patrickmorrisoconnor10 April 2023
Warning: Spoilers
There are of course some good things about this show: good acting blah blah blah OK you get the idea. Warning - I am now going to rag on this show at great length. If that's not your thing then look away now.
Let's start with the opening gambit. Joe is tracked down by an assassin sent by the powerful family - presumably the arsehole dad - of the woman he married and killed. But guess what? The assassin has a sudden change of heart and decides he'll just take your money thanks, and set you up with a fake ID. This hitman is so tired of all the killing, he's decided to pack it in and get into witness protection instead! Oh, except Joe you have to go kill an innocent woman in broad daylight right now to seal the deal, here's the train she's getting on.
Well, that made sense.
Later on of course we discover that Joe did in fact go get the innocent woman. Only he kidnapped her rather than killing her, which was a cinch. You see, all you have to do is slip a mickey into her coffee as she's getting on the Eurostar, then she'll drink it, and fall asleep...on the train to Paris in front of a crowd of people. Hey presto! She's in a cage in West London! Ah, you can't beat a bit of setting up an impossible challenge then resolving it offscreen, so very satisfying for the viewer.
Let's talk about the cage for a second. It was ridiculously big. High ceilings and everything. Must have been a nightmare getting in there. "Where do you want this twelve-foot high bulletproof glass panel, guv?" Later on, Joe is rumbled and gets the whole thing out of there again in about five minutes. Maybe faster. Hard to tell since for some reason they do not dedicate a scene to this herculean feat.
Joe is working at a university in London. And the lecturers are all rich! Just like in real life! So now he's in the Mayfair set, who all love him even though all he ever does is stare at them in slow motion. Then the only connection between him and these people dies, but it's cool because he's in with them now, because he said something really deep which really impressed one of them. So deep in fact, that the writers couldn't actually think of what it was! Yes, the writers are aware of the concept of meaningful conversations, just don't ask them to write one.
Of course, Joe has to now start killing people. No need to worry about pre-meditation or precautions. Invite the guy home and stab him in the chest! Strangle a guy in a church and walk out the front door! The police aren't interested because you gave them a cup of tea, for which they are apparently eternally grateful. Because they're British.
Ah yes, the "Britishness". Where to begin. Nobody in England has ever said "figure it out". In England, people say "work it out". At one point someone British calls something crass, but they pronounce it "crarse". This is truly strange, since any actual English person knows that would be a ridiculous way to pronounce "crass". And the actor was English, which to me implies an on-set yankee tyranny of truly Stalinist proportions. Anyway I sense I'm going down a bit of a rabbit hole on this one so I'll move on.
All the characters, British or otherwise, are just insanely sketchy. "I'm a morally bankrupt posh idiot!" Can you tell which one I'm describing? Me neither. But then of course, when they try to make a character complex, you start to miss the cardboard cutouts. Joe's new gf is desperate to be a better person, which is why she exclusively hangs out with coke-snorting moral vacuums. She really hates her dad, because of his penchant for doing horrible things and using his money to get away with it. Then she finds out Joe did horrible things, and she's like "Let me use my money to cover that up for you! Sure, you're a mass murderer, but my dad just got brutally killed so it balances out." What a character arc, bravo.
Yes, Joe's gf knows he's a killer, because he just... tells her. "I've killed people, ask me anything!" In another bold writing decision, the ensuing conversation happens offscreen, and (I think it goes without saying by now) goes surprisingly smoothly! With every tale of stabbing, she is falling more deeply in love. "Oh, you had a dissociative psychotic break, so sometimes you kill people without even intending to, or remembering it afterward? How charming!"
Anyway it's alright, because they are going to try to be good together from now on, because they are on the same page about deeply regretting their past behaviour. Oh but just by-the-by, Joe is up out of his hospital bed, and off to do a few murders and framings of innocent people now "Can I have access to your dad's old murder cover-up squad for the afternoon please?" "Of course darling!"
The less said about the off-brand Fight Club plot, the better. Chain yourself in the basement, set the place on fire, throw away the key, but it's cool because manacles disintegrate on contact with stone. Earlier on the bad version of Joe slashes someone's throat, just on a whim, while standing in front of her without getting any blood on his shirt. Then someone else finds the body and he's like "ooh looks like you did it, quick let's tamper with this crime scene", and she's like "yeah sounds great!".
All of the body disposal in this series is...casual. Run him down to the local sawmill, chop him up, slap a bit of detergent about, forty five minutes bob's your uncle. Then scatter the bodyparts liberally into local lakes and rivers. What could possibly go wrong? Don't know why he bothered really. Should've just left him on the kitchen table and said "it wasn't me officer, here have a nice cup of tea."
Joe's pinnings-of-murders-on-other-people have also taken a spectacular tumble in quality. Dragging two grown men to a secret country dungeon? Why of course, it was the 5'2" woman who works at the hotel ninety miles away. She just popped to the castle for a bit of murder and arson and back in time to change the sheets in room 31. Snoopy student? No worries, just kill him in broad daylight and hand the knife to his 5'2" gf. Stick a box of your old mementos in his house for a quick frame-up, sorted. Are we checking to make sure the patsies don't have alibis? Naah. It's not like you're the next most likely suspect or anything.
Then of course there's the reactions of people who know for a fact that Joe is a murderer. We've already mentioned Joe's gf's slightly, er, eccentric reaction to finding out he has killed multiple former gfs as well as their friends and associates. When her dad finds out his daughter's new squeeze killed his previous wife, well of course the first thing he does is offer him some work! Shall I get my team of proven professional hitmen to do it? Naah, let's use this random psycho who's dating my daughter. That way it won't get back to me. It's not like I met the guy in a crowded restaurant days before the murder or anything.
Later on, daddy to the daughter with the psycho-killer bf gets a dubious text telling him to come to the abandoned workshop at midnight - alone. Well of course, nothing at all suspicious about that. Especially to a guy who just told his daughter's psycho-killer bf how he could get someone alone, to kill them.
And who could forget "no police!" Marienne? Why no police? Because Joe might escape, of course! Let's leave this in the capable hands of an English Literature student. It's not like the police could come and rescue me from this inexplicably large cage, along with an ambulance that would provide me with much-needed medical attention. Also, please don't let my daughter know I'm alive. Wouldn't want to spoil the surprise now, would we?
Well, by the last episode there's no point calling the police anyway, since Joe is rich now. And as we all know, rich people are all honorary 007s, getting away with unlimited numbers of murders - even of other rich people!
Yes, now Joe has accidentally married into mega-wealth (again), his life is totally consequence free (again - what happened to that in series 3 btw?). He can just swan back to the US with bells on, despite having (among other things) shot a guy with a bow and arrow, bashed him on the head with a mallet, and stuck him in a glass cage. Which guy happens to have been doing Ted Talks on the incident as an actual career ever since.
OK so the series had a lot of holes, I hear you cry, but isn't the same true of previous series? Well, yeah. Joe has always lived in a world mercifully free of mobile phone geolocation and competent detectives. But this one just jumped the shark and - if you'll forgive the extension of the metaphor - fell off the surfboard and sank under the weight of the main character's plot armour. Marrying someone who coincidentally likes a bit of murder in the last series was a major push, but in this series it actually got to the point where characters who were upset by murder were in a clear minority. Everyone either didn't care or was actively up for it.
More importantly, it was easier to forgive the holes in previous series' plots because it felt satirical and insightful. It wasn't really about murder, it was about the effects of obsession, delusion, class, and curated self-image on romantic relationships. What's it about now? Just the whacky antics of a very, very lucky nutcase.
And who among us can't relate to that?
I must admit, when I saw Joe getting ready to jump off that bridge, my heart just sank. "Oh no" I thought, "he's going to survive this, isn't he?" They should have just killed him off, it was the only fair and decent thing to do. But they decided to go back to the "money magically solves all problems" premise that they used to tie up season 2 instead, like a dog returning to its own vomit. In the absence of time travel I suppose it's the best they can do. But it is ironic, since in the show's real-life existence, it is money - specifically the need to make more of it by churning out further episodes - that is actually causing all the problems.
Let's start with the opening gambit. Joe is tracked down by an assassin sent by the powerful family - presumably the arsehole dad - of the woman he married and killed. But guess what? The assassin has a sudden change of heart and decides he'll just take your money thanks, and set you up with a fake ID. This hitman is so tired of all the killing, he's decided to pack it in and get into witness protection instead! Oh, except Joe you have to go kill an innocent woman in broad daylight right now to seal the deal, here's the train she's getting on.
Well, that made sense.
Later on of course we discover that Joe did in fact go get the innocent woman. Only he kidnapped her rather than killing her, which was a cinch. You see, all you have to do is slip a mickey into her coffee as she's getting on the Eurostar, then she'll drink it, and fall asleep...on the train to Paris in front of a crowd of people. Hey presto! She's in a cage in West London! Ah, you can't beat a bit of setting up an impossible challenge then resolving it offscreen, so very satisfying for the viewer.
Let's talk about the cage for a second. It was ridiculously big. High ceilings and everything. Must have been a nightmare getting in there. "Where do you want this twelve-foot high bulletproof glass panel, guv?" Later on, Joe is rumbled and gets the whole thing out of there again in about five minutes. Maybe faster. Hard to tell since for some reason they do not dedicate a scene to this herculean feat.
Joe is working at a university in London. And the lecturers are all rich! Just like in real life! So now he's in the Mayfair set, who all love him even though all he ever does is stare at them in slow motion. Then the only connection between him and these people dies, but it's cool because he's in with them now, because he said something really deep which really impressed one of them. So deep in fact, that the writers couldn't actually think of what it was! Yes, the writers are aware of the concept of meaningful conversations, just don't ask them to write one.
Of course, Joe has to now start killing people. No need to worry about pre-meditation or precautions. Invite the guy home and stab him in the chest! Strangle a guy in a church and walk out the front door! The police aren't interested because you gave them a cup of tea, for which they are apparently eternally grateful. Because they're British.
Ah yes, the "Britishness". Where to begin. Nobody in England has ever said "figure it out". In England, people say "work it out". At one point someone British calls something crass, but they pronounce it "crarse". This is truly strange, since any actual English person knows that would be a ridiculous way to pronounce "crass". And the actor was English, which to me implies an on-set yankee tyranny of truly Stalinist proportions. Anyway I sense I'm going down a bit of a rabbit hole on this one so I'll move on.
All the characters, British or otherwise, are just insanely sketchy. "I'm a morally bankrupt posh idiot!" Can you tell which one I'm describing? Me neither. But then of course, when they try to make a character complex, you start to miss the cardboard cutouts. Joe's new gf is desperate to be a better person, which is why she exclusively hangs out with coke-snorting moral vacuums. She really hates her dad, because of his penchant for doing horrible things and using his money to get away with it. Then she finds out Joe did horrible things, and she's like "Let me use my money to cover that up for you! Sure, you're a mass murderer, but my dad just got brutally killed so it balances out." What a character arc, bravo.
Yes, Joe's gf knows he's a killer, because he just... tells her. "I've killed people, ask me anything!" In another bold writing decision, the ensuing conversation happens offscreen, and (I think it goes without saying by now) goes surprisingly smoothly! With every tale of stabbing, she is falling more deeply in love. "Oh, you had a dissociative psychotic break, so sometimes you kill people without even intending to, or remembering it afterward? How charming!"
Anyway it's alright, because they are going to try to be good together from now on, because they are on the same page about deeply regretting their past behaviour. Oh but just by-the-by, Joe is up out of his hospital bed, and off to do a few murders and framings of innocent people now "Can I have access to your dad's old murder cover-up squad for the afternoon please?" "Of course darling!"
The less said about the off-brand Fight Club plot, the better. Chain yourself in the basement, set the place on fire, throw away the key, but it's cool because manacles disintegrate on contact with stone. Earlier on the bad version of Joe slashes someone's throat, just on a whim, while standing in front of her without getting any blood on his shirt. Then someone else finds the body and he's like "ooh looks like you did it, quick let's tamper with this crime scene", and she's like "yeah sounds great!".
All of the body disposal in this series is...casual. Run him down to the local sawmill, chop him up, slap a bit of detergent about, forty five minutes bob's your uncle. Then scatter the bodyparts liberally into local lakes and rivers. What could possibly go wrong? Don't know why he bothered really. Should've just left him on the kitchen table and said "it wasn't me officer, here have a nice cup of tea."
Joe's pinnings-of-murders-on-other-people have also taken a spectacular tumble in quality. Dragging two grown men to a secret country dungeon? Why of course, it was the 5'2" woman who works at the hotel ninety miles away. She just popped to the castle for a bit of murder and arson and back in time to change the sheets in room 31. Snoopy student? No worries, just kill him in broad daylight and hand the knife to his 5'2" gf. Stick a box of your old mementos in his house for a quick frame-up, sorted. Are we checking to make sure the patsies don't have alibis? Naah. It's not like you're the next most likely suspect or anything.
Then of course there's the reactions of people who know for a fact that Joe is a murderer. We've already mentioned Joe's gf's slightly, er, eccentric reaction to finding out he has killed multiple former gfs as well as their friends and associates. When her dad finds out his daughter's new squeeze killed his previous wife, well of course the first thing he does is offer him some work! Shall I get my team of proven professional hitmen to do it? Naah, let's use this random psycho who's dating my daughter. That way it won't get back to me. It's not like I met the guy in a crowded restaurant days before the murder or anything.
Later on, daddy to the daughter with the psycho-killer bf gets a dubious text telling him to come to the abandoned workshop at midnight - alone. Well of course, nothing at all suspicious about that. Especially to a guy who just told his daughter's psycho-killer bf how he could get someone alone, to kill them.
And who could forget "no police!" Marienne? Why no police? Because Joe might escape, of course! Let's leave this in the capable hands of an English Literature student. It's not like the police could come and rescue me from this inexplicably large cage, along with an ambulance that would provide me with much-needed medical attention. Also, please don't let my daughter know I'm alive. Wouldn't want to spoil the surprise now, would we?
Well, by the last episode there's no point calling the police anyway, since Joe is rich now. And as we all know, rich people are all honorary 007s, getting away with unlimited numbers of murders - even of other rich people!
Yes, now Joe has accidentally married into mega-wealth (again), his life is totally consequence free (again - what happened to that in series 3 btw?). He can just swan back to the US with bells on, despite having (among other things) shot a guy with a bow and arrow, bashed him on the head with a mallet, and stuck him in a glass cage. Which guy happens to have been doing Ted Talks on the incident as an actual career ever since.
OK so the series had a lot of holes, I hear you cry, but isn't the same true of previous series? Well, yeah. Joe has always lived in a world mercifully free of mobile phone geolocation and competent detectives. But this one just jumped the shark and - if you'll forgive the extension of the metaphor - fell off the surfboard and sank under the weight of the main character's plot armour. Marrying someone who coincidentally likes a bit of murder in the last series was a major push, but in this series it actually got to the point where characters who were upset by murder were in a clear minority. Everyone either didn't care or was actively up for it.
More importantly, it was easier to forgive the holes in previous series' plots because it felt satirical and insightful. It wasn't really about murder, it was about the effects of obsession, delusion, class, and curated self-image on romantic relationships. What's it about now? Just the whacky antics of a very, very lucky nutcase.
And who among us can't relate to that?
I must admit, when I saw Joe getting ready to jump off that bridge, my heart just sank. "Oh no" I thought, "he's going to survive this, isn't he?" They should have just killed him off, it was the only fair and decent thing to do. But they decided to go back to the "money magically solves all problems" premise that they used to tie up season 2 instead, like a dog returning to its own vomit. In the absence of time travel I suppose it's the best they can do. But it is ironic, since in the show's real-life existence, it is money - specifically the need to make more of it by churning out further episodes - that is actually causing all the problems.
Honestly The Best Season Yet
Simi153411 March 2023
It has the darkness of Season 1, or even more darkness. It has the plot twists of Season 2, or even more plot twists. And most importantly it has none of the filler episodes which more than half of Season 3 consists of. And this one has the best ending because after this conclusion I wait Season 5 more than I waited any previous seasons. But let's not talk only about the story because this season is outstanding thanks to its cinematography and its soundtrack. After what happened in the last five minutes of this episode I can see only one outcome for the whole story but this series can't stop to surprise me so I can't wait to see how it will end for good.
Nadia is framed
vivianla14 March 2023
Warning: Spoilers
Wow. So this episode gives rich people vibes.
Kate texts Joe to come over. She explains her father has always controlled her life. When she was a boy-crazy teen she overheard her father hiring someone to follow her. He knows when she gave a blowjob to a boy and even knew her menstrual cycle. Disgusting.
Now Kate found out all the opportunities she thought she received on her own were secretly passed to her by her dad. She is upset. Her life is an illusion.
Joe texts Tom Lockwood on Kate's phone and sneaks into the aviation garage. He ties up the dad and when the bodyguard comes in, he kills him. He suffocates dad and makes it look like the bodyguard killed the dad for money.
Joe jumps over a bridge and wakes up in the hospital. H admits to Kate that he killed people and Kate says they can both support each other to become better people. Joe says he thinks this is something he needed to hear for a long time. Kate says her father is dead - killed for money. He left everything in her name. Joe can be with Kate and enjoy their lives. Joe first tells her of his real name.
Flash forward in time the couple is giving an interview. They look very rich and elegant. Joe has his old look from season 1 back.
Nadia explains to her guy friend that she switched the pills that Joe gave Marienne. Marienne only was unconscious and she followed Joe to the bench. Marienne is safe with her daughter now. Joe has no clue she is alive. Nadia is stupid to go back to Joe's apartment to look for evidence though. Joe confronts her and picks up her phone when she drops it. He sees the photos of evidence Nadia took and deletes them. Joe tells Nadia he now has plenty of resources and in her room there is a box of Rhys's things. Joe will frame Nadia for everything about Rhys and for her dead boyfriend.
Joe used his resources to pay many people to fabricate a story that sounds true of the deceased Joe in LA. He has explained his "death" and escape. He put his son into safe hands.
Lady Phoebe is now a teacher in Thailand.
Kate texts Joe to come over. She explains her father has always controlled her life. When she was a boy-crazy teen she overheard her father hiring someone to follow her. He knows when she gave a blowjob to a boy and even knew her menstrual cycle. Disgusting.
Now Kate found out all the opportunities she thought she received on her own were secretly passed to her by her dad. She is upset. Her life is an illusion.
Joe texts Tom Lockwood on Kate's phone and sneaks into the aviation garage. He ties up the dad and when the bodyguard comes in, he kills him. He suffocates dad and makes it look like the bodyguard killed the dad for money.
Joe jumps over a bridge and wakes up in the hospital. H admits to Kate that he killed people and Kate says they can both support each other to become better people. Joe says he thinks this is something he needed to hear for a long time. Kate says her father is dead - killed for money. He left everything in her name. Joe can be with Kate and enjoy their lives. Joe first tells her of his real name.
Flash forward in time the couple is giving an interview. They look very rich and elegant. Joe has his old look from season 1 back.
Nadia explains to her guy friend that she switched the pills that Joe gave Marienne. Marienne only was unconscious and she followed Joe to the bench. Marienne is safe with her daughter now. Joe has no clue she is alive. Nadia is stupid to go back to Joe's apartment to look for evidence though. Joe confronts her and picks up her phone when she drops it. He sees the photos of evidence Nadia took and deletes them. Joe tells Nadia he now has plenty of resources and in her room there is a box of Rhys's things. Joe will frame Nadia for everything about Rhys and for her dead boyfriend.
Joe used his resources to pay many people to fabricate a story that sounds true of the deceased Joe in LA. He has explained his "death" and escape. He put his son into safe hands.
Lady Phoebe is now a teacher in Thailand.
Captivating But Contrived - Season 4 Review
JoshuaMercott13 May 2023
Warning: Spoilers
First Impressions:
A handful of amazing twists and nostalgic guest appearances kept this season interesting, up to a point. Joe's split personality condition felt slapped on, and so did some father-daughter issues that revolved around Kate. Other than these, classic "You" style plotlines continued to deliver tense and intriguing moments in S04. If only some of the later episodes didn't feel so contrived.
Story Analysis:
The story picked up from when Joe left his child in safe hands, staged his own death, and fled in secret to London where nobody - or so he thought - knew him or about him. The past, however, had a strange way of coming back to haunt Joe Goldberg, and that's how season 4 unravelled. It was a steady and captivating take on 'what might have been' with Joe.
Having followed his character arc since the first season, I was impressed with how crafty the writing team were in keeping my curiosity piqued while giving me no room to successfully predict some of the twists that defined this season.
Changing his name and identity to Professor Jonathan Moore was just the beginning. Joe ended up being dragged into the personal problems of a bunch of rich kids who weren't up to any good. And among them, a wolf in sheep's' clothing roamed, going by the name of Rhys Montrose.
Charlotte Ritchie (Kate), Amy-Leigh Hickman (Nadia), Ed Speleers (Rhys Montrose), Tilly Keeper (Phoebe), Ben Wiggins (Roald), Brad Alexander (Edward), Sean Pertwee (Vic), Greg Kinnear (Tom Lockwood), and Alison Pargeter (Dawn) gave highlight performances.
Screenplay was interesting. Art direction and set decoration were great. Editing and VFX were notable. Hair-makeup and costume design were remarkable. Musical scoring was amazing. Cinematography was superb. Direction was good.
Final Notes:
I liked the "Downton Abbey" meets "Agatha Christie" vibe that permeated this season. That said, it also came across as a 'been there seen that' kind of story. The plot was riveting in some places, but dragged in others.
I appreciated the twists, though I wasn't really taken in by the 'Joe gone mad' split personality angle, where he started seeing things that weren't there (like Rhys, a figment of his dark psych-magination) and doing things he didn't have full control over (like kidnapping Marienne to pursue his own redemption).
I felt several scenes had been cut before these sequences unravelled. The plot from E08 onwards therefore felt contrived and slapped on.
Season 4 of "You" was fun to watch, but it lacked the punches and thrills that defined the ones that preceded it. For those who are yet to start, this season will be worth watching once. But be prepared to accept it when S04 loses the neat momentum and nuanced charm that enriched the other seasons.
Where all the previous seasons combined made me feel empathy for Joe Goldberg despite the fact that he murdered people, "You" season 4 only made me feel he had it coming.
A handful of amazing twists and nostalgic guest appearances kept this season interesting, up to a point. Joe's split personality condition felt slapped on, and so did some father-daughter issues that revolved around Kate. Other than these, classic "You" style plotlines continued to deliver tense and intriguing moments in S04. If only some of the later episodes didn't feel so contrived.
Story Analysis:
The story picked up from when Joe left his child in safe hands, staged his own death, and fled in secret to London where nobody - or so he thought - knew him or about him. The past, however, had a strange way of coming back to haunt Joe Goldberg, and that's how season 4 unravelled. It was a steady and captivating take on 'what might have been' with Joe.
Having followed his character arc since the first season, I was impressed with how crafty the writing team were in keeping my curiosity piqued while giving me no room to successfully predict some of the twists that defined this season.
Changing his name and identity to Professor Jonathan Moore was just the beginning. Joe ended up being dragged into the personal problems of a bunch of rich kids who weren't up to any good. And among them, a wolf in sheep's' clothing roamed, going by the name of Rhys Montrose.
Charlotte Ritchie (Kate), Amy-Leigh Hickman (Nadia), Ed Speleers (Rhys Montrose), Tilly Keeper (Phoebe), Ben Wiggins (Roald), Brad Alexander (Edward), Sean Pertwee (Vic), Greg Kinnear (Tom Lockwood), and Alison Pargeter (Dawn) gave highlight performances.
Screenplay was interesting. Art direction and set decoration were great. Editing and VFX were notable. Hair-makeup and costume design were remarkable. Musical scoring was amazing. Cinematography was superb. Direction was good.
Final Notes:
I liked the "Downton Abbey" meets "Agatha Christie" vibe that permeated this season. That said, it also came across as a 'been there seen that' kind of story. The plot was riveting in some places, but dragged in others.
I appreciated the twists, though I wasn't really taken in by the 'Joe gone mad' split personality angle, where he started seeing things that weren't there (like Rhys, a figment of his dark psych-magination) and doing things he didn't have full control over (like kidnapping Marienne to pursue his own redemption).
I felt several scenes had been cut before these sequences unravelled. The plot from E08 onwards therefore felt contrived and slapped on.
Season 4 of "You" was fun to watch, but it lacked the punches and thrills that defined the ones that preceded it. For those who are yet to start, this season will be worth watching once. But be prepared to accept it when S04 loses the neat momentum and nuanced charm that enriched the other seasons.
Where all the previous seasons combined made me feel empathy for Joe Goldberg despite the fact that he murdered people, "You" season 4 only made me feel he had it coming.
Enough already with the untouchable Joe
alohajlj7911 March 2023
Warning: Spoilers
Thankfully, the second half of this season actually felt like "You". However, it's too far off the deep end of fiction. How does one man who's connected and surrounded by multiple deaths one after the next keep getting away with it?! AND is the moral of this story only psychopaths attract money?! How does this guy constantly find himself on the pedestal of the rich circle? From nothing to being on the arms of the uber Rich. I know he killed her father but still. One minute he's in the hospital narrowly escaping death and the next he's on the street killing an innocent kid and setting up his student who we just found out was a badass with Marrianne?! Joe keeps outsmarting them all and everyone falls for it?! Where are the survivors and police?! No one has any way to find this man guilty?? A detective just needs to follow him around for one night and bam! Oh no wait- How would have eyes in the back of his head and be 2 steps ahead of them and kill them. Come on already. Make this believable. Maybe I'm just pissed off seeing these innocent ones paying for his crimes like his neighbor from season 2. The death of Eddie and the framing of Nadia was the last straw. I want Joe to finally be found out about and executed. Please, if there is a Season 5 let this be the case. Marianne get him!
Part 1 - good, part 2 - great
Dannyboi9420 March 2023
Warning: Spoilers
You Season 4 has been pretty good in my opinion. I liked the 'Who Done it' style of story, and especially the new love Interest, whom I think is more compelling of a character than the previous intrests. While season 4 goes over the top several times, it still holds your attention. And while part 1 was a little slow, part 2 elevated things greatly. I loved the shift in tone and story, how the series finally puts a stop to the - Joe is actually a really nice guy trope.... no he isn't. He's a ruthless monster, who has a lot more cunning than we thought. He's like a very smart version of Noman Bates, and I'm here for it.
The drastic change in the character of Joe/his alter ego, Rhys was a surpising welcome, and actually makes sense when you sit and think about his actions in previous seasons. And finally getting to see that darker side of Joe come out at the end, makes me really eager for season 5. I just hope they end it at season 5, and try not to extend it just because - money. If they end it next time, we would have had a very solid thriller TV show that doesn't loose quality.
The Death of Jonathan Moore could mean several things, and I believe that the kind, caring side of Joe is dead - now we have Rhys, the crazy, intelligent, murderer who will stop at nothing to get what he wants. Season 5 is going to be a blast.
On a side note, I have noticed this series gets more and more like Dexter with each season. Hopefully this ends better.
The drastic change in the character of Joe/his alter ego, Rhys was a surpising welcome, and actually makes sense when you sit and think about his actions in previous seasons. And finally getting to see that darker side of Joe come out at the end, makes me really eager for season 5. I just hope they end it at season 5, and try not to extend it just because - money. If they end it next time, we would have had a very solid thriller TV show that doesn't loose quality.
The Death of Jonathan Moore could mean several things, and I believe that the kind, caring side of Joe is dead - now we have Rhys, the crazy, intelligent, murderer who will stop at nothing to get what he wants. Season 5 is going to be a blast.
On a side note, I have noticed this series gets more and more like Dexter with each season. Hopefully this ends better.
A transformative season for Joe
richardguion18 April 2023
Warning: Spoilers
A lot of things can be easily picked apart in this series. Joe gets away from things too easily, he doesn't wear gloves as much as he should, and Nadia really should have called the police when she found Marianne. But I think there are a lot of great story elements here. One is that we were too used to seeing things from Joe's perspective, where he seemed like a sensitive & misunderstood guy who was compelled to kill those he loved. We finally saw how terrifying Joe is when the POV switched to Marianne a few episodes back. Episode 9 of Season 4 had a lot of terrifying emotions churning through Joe, as he had to confront his dark side and meet his past "You" loves (well directed by Penn Badgely). And now this conclusion, setting up a final season 5, where Joe comes to terms with who he is, and with the resources to do almost anything - he's stepped up to the level of a Hannibal Lecter.
This is real world
mslulucao16 March 2023
Warning: Spoilers
A lot of people here are mad that Joe is not dead and not being punished. But this is real world. Are you really that naive to think the rich are innocent and don't have blood on their hands? Just look at the world and how people have died mysteriously in prison, and everyone knew he didn't commit suicide. Rich are getting away with murder, you don't want to believe it, but you can't turn a blind eye.
I actually really like this season. I think it's brilliant. And I never feel Joe is bad, he is obsessed. I also really like that he found Kate, they are so cute together. Marianne is alive so that's good too.
I actually really like this season. I think it's brilliant. And I never feel Joe is bad, he is obsessed. I also really like that he found Kate, they are so cute together. Marianne is alive so that's good too.
Getting used to his creepiness
lakings9710 July 2023
You: Season Four on Netflix continues the story of Joe Goldberg as he continues his obsessive ways of falling for the wrong person and ends up in Paris. He changes his identity and gets a professor gig in London as Jonathan Moore. Penn Badgley enters into another highly rich group of friends that end up getting killed one by one. Unfortunately Jonathan was the center of their lives and Joe does not believe he is the actual killer. Joe becomes delusional and realizes he is talking with Ed Speleers who is launching a political career. Tati Gabrielle reprises her role as Joe's former love interest and he has her captured in his glass vault. Greg Kinnear played a role as Kate's powerful estranged father, Kate is played by Charlotte Ritchie. The first half of the series is structured as whodunit while the second half is inspired by Fight Club. Overall it was a good series but not as good the third season with a fifth and final season is in the works.
Mind-Boggling
RahulM00713 March 2023
Warning: Spoilers
"The enemy of my enemy is my frenemy."
The season 4 finale of "You" titled "The Death of Jonathan Moore" is a non-stop thrill ride from beginning to end. After an underwhelming first half, the fourth season fortunately ended on a high note. To be frank, it felt as if the writers crafted the season finale as a series finale.
Every time you think Joe Goldberg undergoes a period of substantial character growth and development; he unfortunately slips back to his old habits. The phrase "old habits die hard" is especially true for Joe Goldberg.
Joe Goldberg wrestled with his demons, leading him to have a psychotic break. He adopts this Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde persona, where he subconsciously creates a manifestation of Rhys who he never met but becomes obsessed with through watching countless interviews and extensively reading his autobiography. Joe went full-blown Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde this season. Even by his standards, this is the most sick and twisted that he has ever been.
After trying to commit suicide, Joe Goldberg adopts a new lease on life and promises to not succumb to the dark side and to resist the temptation to fall back into the never-ending cycle of violence. Fortunately for us, it did not take long until he increased his already high kill count. He stabbed one of his star pupils Edward and framed the murder on Nadia. Speaking of Nadia, one might infer that she is a replacement to Jenna Ortega's Ellie from season 2.
Throughout the course of the series, it becomes evident that Joe Goldberg grew up on the wrong side of the tracks with little money and opportunity. Since he moved to Los Angeles, the series' narrative sort of transformed into a 'from rags to riches' narrative. The fourth season ultimately ended with Joe getting 'exonerated' for his gruesome murders with the help of Kate. Joe probably only fed Kate half-truths, and not the whole story. In fact, he almost certainly did not confide in her how her father died and the part he played in it. I hope the fifth season is announced as the final season because then the series comes full circle. It also leads Joe back to his roots and back to where it all began.
To conclude, the fourth season of "YOU" once again solidifies Joe Goldberg as television's most lovable and 'rootable' serial killer. This show always manages to subvert my expectations and leave me speechless. The second half of the season is a humdinger. "YOU" is a consistently entertaining psychological thriller that manages to up the ante every season. It never dipped in quality, rather switches up the narrative and the setting every season. Kudos to writers for managing to outdo themselves every season. They crafted yet another juicy, rich, and impeccable script with clever plot twists. It seems fitting to end the series after five seasons. The final season can revolve around the people that Joe wronged and betrayed seeking revenge on him. I was hoping John Stamos as Dr. Nicky would appear in the fourth season as Joe's illustrious and illusive stalker.
Other tidbits:
* The title may be a nod to Roland Barthes' seminal essay "The Death of the Author" which suggests that the author is not the sole creator of their text. This (loosely) aligns to the journey Joe goes through in the fourth season where he is grappling with his own demons and a fractured mind. He does not control the narrative anymore, rather it rests upon his not-to-friendly alter ego. By the end of the season, Joe Goldberg is leaving his alias Jonathan Moore behind, and finally accepted himself, warts and all.
Final verdict: 9.5/10
Ranking the four seasons:
1. Season 2 (9.3/10) 2. Season 4: Part 2 (9.0/10) 3. Season 3 (8.9/10) 4. Season 1 (8.5/10) 5. Season 4: Part 1 (6.8/10)
The season 4 finale of "You" titled "The Death of Jonathan Moore" is a non-stop thrill ride from beginning to end. After an underwhelming first half, the fourth season fortunately ended on a high note. To be frank, it felt as if the writers crafted the season finale as a series finale.
Every time you think Joe Goldberg undergoes a period of substantial character growth and development; he unfortunately slips back to his old habits. The phrase "old habits die hard" is especially true for Joe Goldberg.
Joe Goldberg wrestled with his demons, leading him to have a psychotic break. He adopts this Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde persona, where he subconsciously creates a manifestation of Rhys who he never met but becomes obsessed with through watching countless interviews and extensively reading his autobiography. Joe went full-blown Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde this season. Even by his standards, this is the most sick and twisted that he has ever been.
After trying to commit suicide, Joe Goldberg adopts a new lease on life and promises to not succumb to the dark side and to resist the temptation to fall back into the never-ending cycle of violence. Fortunately for us, it did not take long until he increased his already high kill count. He stabbed one of his star pupils Edward and framed the murder on Nadia. Speaking of Nadia, one might infer that she is a replacement to Jenna Ortega's Ellie from season 2.
Throughout the course of the series, it becomes evident that Joe Goldberg grew up on the wrong side of the tracks with little money and opportunity. Since he moved to Los Angeles, the series' narrative sort of transformed into a 'from rags to riches' narrative. The fourth season ultimately ended with Joe getting 'exonerated' for his gruesome murders with the help of Kate. Joe probably only fed Kate half-truths, and not the whole story. In fact, he almost certainly did not confide in her how her father died and the part he played in it. I hope the fifth season is announced as the final season because then the series comes full circle. It also leads Joe back to his roots and back to where it all began.
To conclude, the fourth season of "YOU" once again solidifies Joe Goldberg as television's most lovable and 'rootable' serial killer. This show always manages to subvert my expectations and leave me speechless. The second half of the season is a humdinger. "YOU" is a consistently entertaining psychological thriller that manages to up the ante every season. It never dipped in quality, rather switches up the narrative and the setting every season. Kudos to writers for managing to outdo themselves every season. They crafted yet another juicy, rich, and impeccable script with clever plot twists. It seems fitting to end the series after five seasons. The final season can revolve around the people that Joe wronged and betrayed seeking revenge on him. I was hoping John Stamos as Dr. Nicky would appear in the fourth season as Joe's illustrious and illusive stalker.
Other tidbits:
* The title may be a nod to Roland Barthes' seminal essay "The Death of the Author" which suggests that the author is not the sole creator of their text. This (loosely) aligns to the journey Joe goes through in the fourth season where he is grappling with his own demons and a fractured mind. He does not control the narrative anymore, rather it rests upon his not-to-friendly alter ego. By the end of the season, Joe Goldberg is leaving his alias Jonathan Moore behind, and finally accepted himself, warts and all.
Final verdict: 9.5/10
Ranking the four seasons:
1. Season 2 (9.3/10) 2. Season 4: Part 2 (9.0/10) 3. Season 3 (8.9/10) 4. Season 1 (8.5/10) 5. Season 4: Part 1 (6.8/10)
Too much
stefannenezic-1233510 March 2023
Warning: Spoilers
Oh come on, it becomes insulting now. It's too much and it's unbelievable stupid. For a moment i thought the story is going in the right direction, plot twist about Rhys was brilliant and I really like it but everything after that was just stupid and wrong. Joe just shouldn't get away this time. One second he is in the hospital bed and than he magically appears in front of Nadia, killing her boyfriend and put her in the prison. It's just too much, he shouldn't get away with this and this show should end in this season with him dead or behind the bars.
Yeah it would be satisfying end for the viewers, but not like this. It's chaotic mess and the ending is just stupid, dissapointing and just wrong.
Acting was brilliant btw, everybody did brilliant but just the story wasn't good and satisfying. It's too much Joe Goldberg isn't a Superman and smartest person ever.
Yeah it would be satisfying end for the viewers, but not like this. It's chaotic mess and the ending is just stupid, dissapointing and just wrong.
Acting was brilliant btw, everybody did brilliant but just the story wasn't good and satisfying. It's too much Joe Goldberg isn't a Superman and smartest person ever.
Joe's Tricks
ZegMaarJus28 March 2023
Warning: Spoilers
This Episode begins with Joe, he burns a letter. Joe left Marienne's body on a bench in the woods. The real Rhys Montrose his body has been found. Joe is planning to kill Tom. Joe killed Hugo, one of Tom his guards. Joe puts a plastic bag on Tom his head, Tom died afterwards. Joe pushed Rhys into the water. Joe jumps into the water, he sinks to the bottom. Marienne is still alive, Nadia made up a plan to get her safe. Joe has been revived after he jumped into the water. Joe tells to Kate that he killed people in the past. Joe tells his real name to Kate. Marienne got reunited with her daughter. Joe killed Eddie, but blames Nadia for it. . Nice Final Episode of You Season 4, such a nice final. Really looking forward to see the last Season of this amazing series!
Please end this mess
nitimazumder14 March 2023
Warning: Spoilers
Words can't sufficiently describe how much I hated how this season ended. The season started out ok but quickly derailed as and as soon as they revealed the big twist it was too late for any recovery. It feels as if the showrunners are clutching at literal straws to continue to be creative. And to add salt to the wound, we will probably be faced with another season of this rubbish. Honestly, they should have ended the show after season 2. Instead we are being told that the women in Joe's world are so dim-witted and enamoured by him that he can get away with literally murdering their family members. What an utter load of garbage.
It should have ended here
max_kirchi3 May 2023
Warning: Spoilers
This is where it could have ended and it would have been really good.
If one is honest, there can only be two possible and satisfying endings to Joe's story.
One, the much darker ending, is the final death and posthumous consequences of his murders.
The other ending, my personal favorite, would be to end with a decision that finally lets the character go out with a "happy ending" for the viewer, either turning himself in and answering for his actions, or finally acting with a general morality and repentance.
Both possibilities would have been there after the season worked so hard towards it.
Instead, it's being dragged out even more with a 5th season and I'm not sure how they're going to accomplish that anymore somehow.
If one is honest, there can only be two possible and satisfying endings to Joe's story.
One, the much darker ending, is the final death and posthumous consequences of his murders.
The other ending, my personal favorite, would be to end with a decision that finally lets the character go out with a "happy ending" for the viewer, either turning himself in and answering for his actions, or finally acting with a general morality and repentance.
Both possibilities would have been there after the season worked so hard towards it.
Instead, it's being dragged out even more with a 5th season and I'm not sure how they're going to accomplish that anymore somehow.
[5.5] Poor Nadia
cjonesas30 March 2023
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A very weak fourth season with just good acting, the rest is just twisted storyline plots and sub plots one after another.
The whole season four world, schemes and Joe's newly found and built life is just so incredibly unbelievable and stupid that it takes the crown from the dismal season three. At least Victoria Pedretti was in it.
Joe or Jonathan a professor in London! Acting like Dexter!
Kate her semi twisted wannabe girlfriend is even worse. To kill Love to have that semi pretentious egg-scrambled lady by his side is just nearly laughable as is the semi twisted lady bearing a bad dark past that she is portrayed as.
When Joe jumped, I was so happy for a second before seeing his sorry a&& in the hospital.
Please kill him off the soonest. Next season be the last hopefully.
Poor Nadia...
The whole season four world, schemes and Joe's newly found and built life is just so incredibly unbelievable and stupid that it takes the crown from the dismal season three. At least Victoria Pedretti was in it.
Joe or Jonathan a professor in London! Acting like Dexter!
Kate her semi twisted wannabe girlfriend is even worse. To kill Love to have that semi pretentious egg-scrambled lady by his side is just nearly laughable as is the semi twisted lady bearing a bad dark past that she is portrayed as.
When Joe jumped, I was so happy for a second before seeing his sorry a&& in the hospital.
Please kill him off the soonest. Next season be the last hopefully.
Poor Nadia...
just okay
garabedian12316 March 2023
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The whole buildup with his student Nadia just fizzles out in the last 2 minutes of the show? That is freaking lame. Becauce im sure she would be quiet after killing her boyfriend right in front of her. And just because she touched the knife does not mean you can pin a whole murder on her. She is too short to be able to slice his neck open like that.
And joes whole...fight club thing ended up not being very interesting. Nothing really happens with it. They just kind of ...well yeah fizzle out...again.
So easily to kill a billionaire with so much security. I feel like Im watching rick and morty's short mysteries., it was just so easy.
And joes whole...fight club thing ended up not being very interesting. Nothing really happens with it. They just kind of ...well yeah fizzle out...again.
So easily to kill a billionaire with so much security. I feel like Im watching rick and morty's short mysteries., it was just so easy.
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