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8/10
American exceptionalism may not be as exceptional as people think
howard.schumann4 March 2016
If you are at all interested in six weeks of paid vacation, an extra month's salary and a two-hour lunch break, you just might have to go to Italy to find it. Filmmaker Michael Moore ("Capitalism: A Love Story," "Sicko"), a welcome voice for sanity, returns to the big screen in his first film in seven years to tell us that perks like this exist, just not in the United States. His latest documentary, Where to Invade Next, is a satiric look at what much of the world has to offer that is not available here. Underneath all the wit, however, the film has a serious purpose, calling our attention to what works and what doesn't work in society, regardless of what may be considered the "right" thing to do and the label you might put on it. In simple terms, so-called American exceptionalism is often not as exceptional as most people think.

Though the title of the film may suggest an exposé of the government's penchant for endless war, Moore has something else in mind. His intention is to show how other nations treat their citizens in the workplace, schools, and prisons, including their attitudes towards women and sex, leaving it to the viewer to make comparisons. In the opening scene, a tongue-in-cheek Moore is summoned to appear before the Joint Chiefs of Staff to offer his advice on how to stop losing wars. His suggestion is to allow him to conduct the invasions from now on, pledging to do better. Taking his camera crew to Italy, France, Finland, Slovenia, Tunisia, Portugal, Iceland, and Germany, he interviews workers, teachers, students, CEOs, government officials, and ordinary folks who tell him about the advantages they have.

When he departs the country, he makes sure to plant the American flag to signal his success in stealing its ideas. Though Moore's bewildered, "are you kidding me?" shtick becomes a bit tiresome by the end, it mostly suits the "wow" nature of what he uncovers. In Italy, the wide-eyed director can only shrug his shoulders when he hears from young workers that they have thirty to thirty-five paid vacation days a year, not including holidays, paid maternity leave, or a paid honeymoon. Seeking an explanation for this, he turns to the CEO of a motorcycle company who tells him that the happier the workers are, the more production they achieve and hence the more profits for the company, though Moore does not discuss the overall economic problems of the country.

In France, Moore teases us by taking us to what he calls a gourmet five-star restaurant in Normandy only to reveal, much to our calculated astonishment, that we are in a typical school cafeteria that serves five-course meals, planned each month by the school and city representatives. Eating with the students, he offers one girl a can of coke but is summarily rebuffed. In looking at Finland's school system, Moore discovers that students have no homework and more free time to socialize and enjoy time with their families. He learns that Finland has no private schools so that the community is dedicated to making the public schools work.

According to Moore, Finland's school system has risen from the depths to become number one in the world.

From there we travel to Slovenia (not to be confused with Slovakia) which has a free university system, especially inviting for foreign students, to Germany where factory workers toil 36 hours a week while being paid for 40 hours. Oh, yes — if they get too stressed, they can go to a spa at company expense to work it all out. Pausing for a serious look at how one country deals with its unpleasant past, Moore explores how educators and students confront the Holocaust in Germany, even though it is uncomfortable to face.

In Norway, we see how prisoners are treated as human beings, even mass murderers like Anders Breivik, even though Breivik has threatened to go on a hunger strike because of what he claims are "deteriorating" living conditions — isolation from the other inmates and allowing only contact being with health care workers and guards. While the energy sags a bit in the last two segments in Portugal and Iceland, Where to Invade Next delivers a sharp, meaningful message though not as impactful as Moore's earlier work. Contrary to his critics, however, it does not disparage America, but suggests that a great people can be even greater if they are willing to learn from others.
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9/10
Your enjoyment will be in 100% accordance with your appreciation of Michael Moore
Art Snob4 November 2015
It was worth waiting nearly three hours in a rush line to catch a screening of this film at TIFF. Mike was there, and when he mentioned before the screening that he made this movie entirely with his own money because he wanted 100% control of it, my expectations were immediately elevated.

And definitely rewarded. Whatever your favorite Moore outing is, I can tell you that this film compares favorably to it. But what really made this a memorable experience for me was that after the movie, Moore invited the entire audience to a ticket-holders Q & A with drinks and refreshments at a pub close by. I had to skip the next movie on my docket in order to attend, but I sure wasn't going to miss this!

The movie might be called "Non-American Exceptionalism." In it, he "invades" a host of (mostly European) countries to "capture" their best ideas. These ideas turn out to be systems – be they economic, institutional, educational, penal, etc. – where desirable ends that could never be realized in America are par for the course. It can be a prosperous factory in Italy where the workers are well-paid and get fantastic benefits … it can be the cost-effective school lunch program in France where kids get chef-made gourmet meals every day … it can be the free college in Slovenia ... you get the gist. While Moore doesn't pretend that these countries have no problems (watch the right-wing media say otherwise), his examples certainly seem to be "winners" that he invites scrutiny of.

What's likely to be most controversial about this movie is one of the conclusions he draws: that systems seem to work better when women are involved in the decision-making process. When I asked him at the Q & A how he thought Fox was going to spin this film, he said that with the female-friendly theme, they'll probably say that it's a campaign commercial for Hillary. (For the record, his hero female politician is Elizabeth Warren).

Obviously, your potential enjoyment of this film is completely Moore-dependent. If you've ever enjoyed one of his provocateur films, you can put this one down as a sure thing; if you're one of his detractors, this will make you resent him all the more. Seeing this as a member of the former group and getting to attend a one-of-a-kind Q & A afterward definitely made this one of my all-time TIFF outings.
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8/10
One of Moore's Best
coryandricks26 April 2016
This is one of Michael Moore's best documentaries. It tackles many of the issues that are relevant in America's current socio-political climate (healthcare, paid leave, education, mass incarceration, drugs) but without the usual flashy, confrontational gimmicks that we have come to associate with Michael Moore. Instead, he simply takes us on a learning tour to other countries that have come up with wildly successful solutions to these issues. We have all these prime examples of programs that actually work, yet somehow, here in America, socialism is still a dirty word, so we insist on more of the same failed policies despite all the data proving otherwise because we refuse to accept that somebody other than America got it right. If you're like me (brimming with cynicism in the abyss of absolute hopelessness for this country), it's at least nice to be reminded of what is possible.
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10/10
I'm A Grown Man And I Literally Cried!
interestingfunstuff16 February 2016
We Americans have a lot to learn from other cultures. Most Americans think they are "the best" in the world - IN EVERYTHING - AND THAT'S UTTER NONSENSE! It's a form of social control used by various elites to keep the average American from knowing what is possible with the great wealth and power our country has accumulated. We have been brainwashed into taking crumbs and believing that's all we deserve from our society.

We are also deliberately kept ignorant about the rest of the world and how much better many countries treat their citizens - since our school systems pretend that most of the world outside of Mexico, Canada and a few large countries in Europe and Asia - simply doesn't exist. It outrageous. We are such fools!

I'm an extremely well-informed person and I didn't even know about half of what Michael Moore mentioned in his film! I can only imagine all the dunderheads out there who have never even heard the names of some of the countries mentioned in Where To Invade Next! Be curious about the rest of the world. It has a lot to teach us!
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10/10
Brilliant
izadifar23 December 2015
Just like Mr. Moore's previous works, brilliant, raw and based on the truth and statistics. The contrast was overwhelming and sickening but he finished it on a positive note. That if only we realize we, the people, realize we have all that it takes, we can bring the wall down, one hammer and chisel at a time. But as one of the guys in the movie said we have "a long way to go". He covered all the relevant issues of our today's society, from women's equal pay to nutrition, from student loans to bankers getting away with murder, from criminalization of drugs and its connection to race to police brutality, from an overworked and underpaid society to disappearance of middle class, from capital punishment to mistreatment of the incarcerated, and more....It is eye-opening and educational, to say the least and makes you wonder why we we "go home and are okay" with all of this. Because "nobody should be".
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7/10
a great film, for Americans
raidatlanta4 June 2016
I gave this movie a 7 (hesitated with 8) because it is a good film. It is funny, entertaining, it shows things that are true. Something that is nice is that it seems also that Moore tries to show as many countries as possible, even countries that some people might feel are "forgetable", etc.

The reason why I do give a lower mark is that it is a film that is really made for a US audience. Having spent a good deal of time in North America I can completely understand why he tries to make it so that the ideas shown and expressed in the film are as "American" or "American born" as possible, but when you're from someplace else, and when you know more about history or such things in general, it seems just a bit annoying that they try to make some ideas that are pretty much universal, or just not American, as American as possible. The ending is also quite cliché, but it just reflects and intensifies the previous comment. it's actually because of the very-patriotic-to-get-republicans-to-listen ending that i decided to give this movie a7 instead of an 8.

for non us viewers I would say that you can just skip the last 15 minutes, but that the rest is great
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10/10
Michael Moore Scores a perfect 10
nikkd19 September 2015
I always enjoy watching Michael's movies. But I think this my be his best work to date. Don't be fooled by the tittle. This is a thought provoking movie that really opens your eyes to a lot of things and makes you think long and hard about our priorities. In true Michael fashion we get lots of laughs and a lot of smart humor. Everybody should see this movie and judge it for themselves. Don't watch it with any preconceived notions and based on your political view point. Non partisanship is mandatory if you want to get the most from this film. And no matter on your point of view I assure you that you will learn something.
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7/10
Funny Michael Moore is Back
gregsrants20 September 2015
There are many words one might use to describe filmmaker/documentarian Michael Moore and 'preachy' might just be one of them. His films, Fahrenheit 9/11, Bowling for Columbine, Sicko…were all highly entertaining and even educational for the peripherally blind. But Moore had lost his fun side. There were moments of levity in each of his films but the humor on display in his first feature Roger & Me had been replaced with a political or prejudice view Moore hoped to express.

Moore's latest documentary, Where To Invade Next takes us back to the fun and wit that made his earlier work so refreshingly entertaining. In this his eighth feature documentary (but first in six years), Moore travels to Europe where he visits countries that seem to have captured the American dream of a work/life balance. We travel with Moore to Germany where we find small companies who pay big wages, to Italy where employees are given more weeks annual vacation than an American can hope for over a five year period and to Slovenia which offers free university tuition. Moore then presents a mock 'invasion' of the country which is presented in a hilarious tongue-in-cheek style of filmmaking.

The presentation does not feel preachy nor does it appear anti-American. Instead, Moore is able to casually walk the line of presenting lifestyles, politics and privileges in other countries that American's dream of or have tied up in political limbo. That's not to suggest that Moore doesn't show the underbelly of the giant. The European way of life may not be sustainable in the long term due to the expense of the support. And Europe is still not without its issues to which Moore is quick to point out to rousing audiences.

A tad overlong at 2 hours, Where to Invade Next is arguably Michael Moore's most enjoyable film. We are not looking at the ravages of the auto industry on Flint Michigan or how sick individuals are denied health care. Here, we take a jovial look at the things that look like a shopping bag of perfect put into a soggy paper bag about to collapse. Moore has an energy and an enthusiasm here that he hasn't shown in years and the results had the audience at the Toronto International Film Festival up off their seats in lauding applause at the conclusion of the screening.

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9/10
Brilliant and Counter-intuitive Strategies for Success
Blue-Grotto8 November 2015
What if the United States invaded other countries not in order to control people, but to learn from them?! Moore, in a mostly positive yet still humorous, sarcastic and witty bent, leads the charge into other countries. He liberates many brilliant and counter-intuitive strategies for success. It is shocking, even to people who think they know these strategies already.

The invasion of Italy comes first. Here we see that the clash between the company and the well-being of its employees, in pay, vacation, family health and more, is a total fallacy. Kids in Finland have no standardized tests, no private schools and even no homework. Kids are treated with respect, like adults really, and have more time to play and be kids. And yet Finland is no slouch when it comes to education and in fact they lead the world here. In France kids are provided with healthy school lunches that we consider gourmet, yet for the French it is just a decent meal. Germany and its companies support a strong middle class by providing all workers with great pay and lots of vacation time. This is so even with less hours worked per week. Companies even encourage unions and furnish employees with spas. "If you give workers power," says a company leader "it is better for everyone."

Slovenia, among other countries, provides free college to everyone, even foreigners. Slovenian officials were at the theater handing out applications. No one is penalized for using drugs in Portugal, and the country is not drowning in anarchy or crime. Women have equal rights in Tunisia. Prisoners in Norway have their own cabins and lawn chairs in the sunlight. They cook their own meals and are free to roam around with barely any security personnel present. Even in the country's maximum security prison there are open rooms. Moore contrasted this with videos of U.S. prison beatings and other harsh treatments. What if the Lehman Brothers were the Lehman Sisters?! Iceland shows us how this might play out.

Moore offered little to counter his ideas, yet we hear too much about such counter points already. The mainstream media, said Moore, is adept at showing us how bad the world is. He thinks this can be fixed. These ideas from other countries are not just good, they are already in use. And they are not just in use, they allow other countries to excel and lead the world. Many of these ideas are American ideas, but out of fear or ignorance they are not used in America. All Americans should see this. Four and a half of five stars. World premiere seen at the Toronto International Film Festival 2015.
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6/10
Great thought provoking documentary!
subxerogravity26 December 2015
I feel like weather you agree or disagree with what Micheal Moore is doing, Where to Invade Next does make you think about things, and is the type of doc that starts a conversation.

Although, is it a doc when the filmmaker gets so personally involved? Moore sets up Where to Invade Next with a humorous narrative suggesting he was asked by all the heads of the U.S Military to travel to all White countries, see what they can offer America, and take it over for their resources.

The main concept is that there are countries out their who are living at least part of the American dream better than America, and I do mean parts. Moore is not saying these countries are perfect only noting one aspect that they are doing better than America, aspects that these countries actually got from the United States in the first place, aspects we ourselves are not doing as a whole anymore.

You could punch holes in what Moore is trying to do, cause it's easy enough to do, but that would be very pigheaded when the man is just trying to show us (in a very funny way) how America has fallen off the path and how it's possible to get back on track.

It's not an easy path to get back on, in fact its More complicated than what Moore is explaining, but the doc does get you asking "Why doesn't America work that way?" I feel that's important.
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10/10
Hilariously Fun to Watch with Unexpected Twists
fly-3129726 December 2015
This isn't just a great documentary, it's a great film, with jaw dropping reveals and unexpected twists. By about 5 minutes into the film I was hooked and at the edge of my seat as the rest of the two hours flew by; I didn't want it to end, which is always a good sign.

To be clear, this film is not about U.S. military interventions like Fahrenheit 9/11, as I suspected, but rather an ironic look into the discordance between American values and American actions; not abroad but at home. It takes us outside our world only to look back at ourselves as if we were strangers. We get to see our values around health, education, incarceration, violence, and fairness in a new light. And, without giving too much away, the film culminates with a big twist that is marvelously compelling.

As a result, this film has stuck with me. It has been months since I first saw the film at the Chicago International Film Festival, where it won the Founder's Award, and I find myself thinking about the film at least weekly, which finally prompted me to write this short review.

I'm telling everyone I meet to see this film, and to bring their friends, kids, neighbors. Plan some time to talk afterward! I can't wait to see it again myself.
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7/10
This isn't an anti-war movie!
Red-12519 February 2016
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Where to Invade Next (2015) was directed by Michael Moore who is also the star of the film. This movie should win an Oscar for most misleading title. It's not about previous, present, or future invasions of other countries by the U.S. (That would make for an even longer film.)

Moore "invades" several countries in Europe (also Tunisia in North Africa) to find out what they do better than we do. In his own shambling, disordered way, he get access to people and places that are truly interesting. A high-security prison in Norway, a factory in Italy, the Finnish Minister of Education, etc.

In each case, he finds something really positive about the country, and then considers how we could apply it to the U.S. For example, in Portugal, using "illicit" drugs isn't against the law. No one is in prison in Portugal because he or she is a user. Moore contrasts that

to our situation in the U.S., where hundreds of thousands of people are incarcerated for non-violent drug offenses.

The list goes on and on--free college education in Slovenia, gourmet school lunches in France, no school homework in Germany, etc.

In many cases, people point out to Moore that they derived their progressive ideas from the United States. They are using these progressive ideas, but we have forgotten them.

Moore sidesteps actual military invasion. (He touches on U.S. military spending for just a few seconds in a two-hour movie.) And, as he himself admits in the film, he has cherry-picked the best practices from each of the countries.

Moore makes the important argument that in these progressive country, taxes are "higher." Then he makes the serious counter-argument: taxes are more than income taxes. Yes, income taxes are higher in other countries, but in the U.S. we are "taxed" by having to pay for higher education, having to pay for health insurance, having to pay for childcare, and so forth. Good point.

I don't think this is a great Michael Moore movie. However, once you can get past the misleading title, you can learn quite a bit from the film. For example, when drug use was decriminalized in Portugal, drug use went down!

We saw the movie at the excellent Little Theatre in Rochester, NY. It will work well on the small screen. It's worth seeking out if you're a Moore fan, or a progressive who could conceive of a prison where knives are freely available. Otherwise, you probably won't like it.
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5/10
Moore takes the ideological fact management too far this time
Radu_A6 October 2016
I usually like Michael Moore's films for taking a human interest approach to well established problems, and thereby bringing these closer to the viewer. That routinely invites criticism over his lack of factual basis, but when it's an American topic he's dealing with, the framework checks out. So "Bowling for Columbine", "Fahrenheit 9/11", "Capitalism - A Love Story" are all great films, because they make a case for a clear message.

What's problematic, though, is when Moore travels the world, because he picks certain elements out of a different culture and presents that as a better way that America could easily adapt. In "Sicko", he focused on Cuban health care being free and pulled the stunt to get US 9/11 firefighters treatment they were not granted in the States. That ignored the reality that a great deal of people wanted to get out for lack of perspective, and that free health care is an effective tool to rally public support for an otherwise unpopular political system.

In "Where to invade next", Moore presents a potpourri of European social systems, and being from there, it is extremely obvious that he randomly picks out certain aspects while ignoring where these come from. So Italy has a two-hour lunch break and the highest number of public holidays. However, the companies he shows are family run. Also, Italy has a high home ownership and a low mobility rate, so there is a more local business which allows generous lunch breaks and free time - there is less commute. Italy also has no industrial growth, bankrupt banks, a huge deficit, political instability and the highest exposure to the refugee crisis.

Some of Moore's points are good, like when he interviews the father of one of Breivik's victims in Norway who does not argue for the death penalty, because it is a proved fact that the death penalty does not lower crime. As is his point in regard to Finland that no homework actually elevates the grades of pupils. But in Slovenia, he focuses on free university education including foreigners - which is an exception, in most European countries foreign students ARE charged, while domestic students are not.

In Tunisia, he drives a far fetched angle from legal abortion to the Arab Spring, and while the argument of women's rights effecting positive social change is a good one, what happened to the Arab Spring? In Egypt, as in most of the Middle East, women's issues are far worse now, and Tunisia is the one small country where a fragile stability has taken hold. Everywhere else, the end of dictatorship means the rise of religious fanatics.

In Iceland, he chooses the example of the first female head of state, and a bank run by women which did not go bankrupt in 2008, to argue that female quota and leadership would reduce conflict and increase efficiency. Yet Margaret Thatcher was a woman, and that didn't make her leadership more peaceful or popular. Carly Fiorina is a woman, and that didn't make her more successful at Hewlett-Packard. It's the economic and political culture that determines the outcome, not gender, and the case for equality could be made without choosing random examples.

In France, he claims with a diagram without numbers that effective taxation in the US would be much higher, because many things for which Americans pay extra are covered through taxes. In France, 1 in 5 people are state-employed, so there are exemptions and funds for them, but not for others. Gentrification has driven rents so high in Paris that people with low-paying jobs are forced to sleep in parks or cars, and young French view their future the most negatively in Europe. While Moore was filming there, there was a movement against unemployment and government standstill, which he must have been aware of.

His most inaccurate comments concern Germany, however. He claims from visiting one factory that there is a 36-hour week, and that health care allows spa vacations, and that Germany makes an active effort to confront the demons of its past, making it a more open-minded society. In reality, manufacturing jobs may have 36 hours, but the much larger service sector hasn't. Germany has the highest effective taxation in the Eurozone owing to exploding health care costs - you face premium hikes of 10-15% a year, because the 0%-interest rate of our Central Bank eliminates insurer's and pension fund's profits. The memory culture is highly selective and symbolic, and the refugee crisis has led to a massive resurgence of xenophobia.

One Tunisian interview partner mentions that Americans tend to think they are the greatest country, which eliminates their curiosity about the rest of the world - that's a very good point. However, it doesn't help Americans to travel the world just in order to see what they want to see. Instead of looking for randomly selected points abroad, he should have focused on the problems back home.
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10/10
Best Docu of the year!
Ramascreen21 December 2015
The thing is with this Michael Moore's latest docu, I'm a liberal, so he's basically preaching to the converted. So the best way for this film to have the most impact is for it to screen in regions of the U.S.A. where there's big demographics that want status quo, that blame the minorities for the economy, that are still gung-ho about endless wars.

From "Roger & Me," to "Bowling For Columbine," to "Sicko" to "Fahrenheit 911" and now "Where To Invade Next," Michael Moore knows which buttons to push to tick off the right wingers. Don't get me wrong, I love this country, this good ol' US of A but let's not be ignorant, let's not be in denial, let's not forget the fact that we are also responsible for lots of atrocities, many of which are currently happening, including our idea of going to one war after another after another, toppling one dictator after another dictator after another. We invaded Iraq. which didn't attack us on 9/11 by the way, with the plan of stealing their oil and look what happens now, we're still paying the consequences of the lives and expense we've lost there, and terrorism fill the political vacuum and wages war on us. WHERE TO INVADE NEXT is basically Michael Moore invading major modern nations and playfully stealing their ideas that work, ideas that improve the lives of their citizens.

It's sad really when you think about it. It's sad that we are supposed to be the richest most powerful country in the world and yet many of our middle-class are disappearing and the poor don't have a leg up to get themselves out of poverty. Italy gives their newly mothers five months of paid maternity leave. The education system in Norway get rid of standardized testing and instead they improve on poetry, art, and music, basically stuff on which Americas education system often cuts funding. Portugal has done away with death penalty. Even a moslem country in Tunisia can have their conservative and liberal parties work together to pass laws that would improve the lives of their citizens. Germany has free college tuition and universal health care.

Watching WHERE TO INVADE NEXT makes you envy these other neighboring countries, they get to live the American dream while we here cannot. The government should be by the people, of the people and for the people, NOT for the greedy few but that is unfortunately what's happening in our country. In the U.S., the greedy few on top gamble with our money and they fail or when the bubble burst, like in 2008, it's our taxpayers money that bailed them out. The CEOs responsible were never convicted of their crime. Speaking of taxes, most of our taxes go to military, and yet the politicians make it seem like we cannot afford such things as universal health care and universal college.

Another thing that WHERE TO INVADE NEXT points out is that we Americans have become arrogant. We think that we are the good guys so much so that everything we do cannot be wrong. We have bought into our own exceptionalism that we choose to not learn from other countries anymore. We forget to learn from our own history. WHERE TO INVADE NEXT goes straight for the truth, it's Michael Moore's funniest yet, but it's funny in a way that leaves a feeling a self-retrospect in you. It's eye-opening. I hope my fellow millennials get to see WHERE TO INVADE NEXT, and then do their research, learn from history and then take a stand and do something about it.
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10/10
Michael Moore's newest film is revealing and myth-busting
hvffc3 April 2016
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This may be MM's best film to date and that's saying a lot because in my book, Bowling for Columbine was a masterpiece and Fahrenheit 911 not far behind. The segment reflecting on how Germany remembers its terrible past shines powerfully on a major deficiency in how the USA handles its own past; the segment on law enforcement in Portugal and incarceration in Norway challenges the failures of US practices of the same, and their insidious instigation of a new version of Jim Crow in southern states. As well, Moore adroitly punctures the myth of higher taxes in Western Europe. A large cheer erupted in the theater where I saw the film when Moore explained how Iceland convicted and sentenced the bankers whose malfeasance wreaked their nation's economy.
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6/10
decent, but rambling, uneven and superficial
HotlineSF15 February 2016
the premise is Michael Moore "invading" other countries (mostly European) to highlight what they do better than America ,whether it's healthcare, education, prisons, drug enforcement, or all of the above. He then proposes that we "steal" these things to make our country better.

We can agree with Moore that there many things Europe does better than us, but the problem is he doesn't offer any in-depth analysis or solutions to these issues. He argues we can fix our problems by doing what the Euros are doing - and in some cases I wholeheartedly agree - but he makes no effort to present the other side of the coin or to explain why these changes haven't occurred yet. if you're well-versed in worldly affairs this movie may affirm many things you already know, but it doesn't offer any new insights and doesn't really tell you anything you don't already know.

thematically, this picture's a bit uneven. it lacks the focused compelling vision that Bowling for Columbine had. But it's also lightheartedly entertaining and there are amusing and funny scenes, with an examination of the perks of Norway's prisons being a highlight.

as Moore often does, this feels more like propaganda than an impartial documentary. it's clear there's an agenda here and stuff is often taken out of context or manipulated to support his case. For example, he touts Scandinavian schooling as the pinnacle of education, yet conspicuously fails to mention any Asian countries, who also have superior education, because it doesn't support his case for more liberal and unstructured schooling.

at it's best, this can be a fun and entertaining look at the questions American society faces. just don't expect any thought-provoking results or actual answers to these questions.
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8/10
Showing The USA were it went wrong
parrisjim18 February 2016
Anyone one voted under a 7 did so out of a bias anger..What this movie shows it how The USA attitude of were are the greatest county in the world just isn't true anymore.The basic things..Diet,education,Health Care..The Justice system has all failed in the USA.We simply do not have the best of any of these things anymore...I don't understand how this movie is sailing in under the radar with out much publicity..I was alone in the theater when I saw it,that is no one else was there..it was empty.I thought I might get bored but found myself amazed by what I was seeing.I wanted to run out and tell everyone what I just saw.I would like to make this point I work at a USA college admissions office..Once in awhile someone would come in saying they had a college degree in another county could they transfer any of it here..it was always met with a resounding "no"..I asked why..do they have less elements on their periodic table? it made no sense and seemed to boil down to not spending money here in the USA..I had the privilege of going to a small catholic grade school where little old Italian ladies made us lunch everyday..So I always ate well..somehow in the years since that went away...who knows why..
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6/10
What's ours is theirs
ferguson-610 February 2016
Greetings again from the darkness. We haven't heard much from director Michael Moore since his 2009 film Capitalism: A Love Story … and not many people have complained. While Mr. Moore's eagerness to ask tough questions and confront the system has always been appreciated (or at least thought-provoking), his style and manner have often seemed somewhat dubious, one-sided and self-serving. And now comes the new and improved Michael Moore. Many say he has mellowed in temperament; however, a better description might be that he has achieved a level of wisdom that allows for an approach that makes us more receptive to his points.

This latest begins with a note that the U.S. has not won a war since WWII, and the farcical hook is that the Joint Chiefs of Staff have summoned Moore for advice. See, America has lost its way and is on the wrong track when it comes to such basics as personal happiness, equality and overall priorities. Moore's solution is to "invade" other countries and stake a claim on the things they do better than us (us being the United States).

To drive home the contrast of how other nations focus on crucial topics that the U.S. seems to have forgotten, Moore cherry-picks the best parts of other societies. These include: Italy (extended vacations for less stress), France (superior school nutrition and straight-forward sex education), Finland (top rated education despite no homework, short school days, and no standardized testing), Slovenia (free college education which means no debt for graduates), Germany (strong middle class, national healthcare, high wages at small companies), Portugal (decriminalization of drugs resulting in less crime and lower drug usage), Norway (prison rehabilitation), Tunisia (women's rights), and Iceland (gender equality).

To convince us of his kinder, gentler self, Moore obsessively flaunts the American flag throughout. It does help to distract from his trademark disheveled and bedraggled personal appearance … his usual method in attempting to convince he's just "one of the guys" rather than the multi-millionaire he is. Still, despite his gimmicky approach, it's impossible not to notice the obvious lack of in-your-face negativity. In fact, it could be stated that optimism exists as he tromps his way through the good news in each stop. Optimism with a bite – the comparisons aren't favorable for the U.S. in any of these scenarios.

What Moore does best is generate debate and inspire passionate discussion on topics. His point here is that most of the ideals he is claiming from other countries actually have a foundation in America. Yes, these are ideals that America has forsaken, yet are working in other places. Of course, the cherry-picking gives the impression of idyllic societies, when in fact, each of these nations face many of their own unnamed challenges – some on the specific topics addressed by Moore.

Moore's goal seems to be to re-focus our attention on core American values - the topics Americans care about in our daily lives. He wants us to be annoyed with the way things are … crime-fed bankers still lining their pockets, a stressed-out workforce, and an education system that is quite simply stated, a mess. Maybe this kinder, gentler (but still manipulative) contrarian is on to something, and he ends by asking us how we feel about all of this. Moore has again succeeded in getting us thinking about things, and this time it comes with quite a surreal movie moment … Moore telling a disinterested Portugal police officer that he has "cocaine in my pocket right now."
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8/10
Wake up USA and Canada!
CrystallineBlue16 August 2016
Another excellent film by Michael Moore.

The footage from the school cafeteria in France was just embarrassing. The muck fed to children in Canada - by both schools AND many halfwit substandard parents - is disgusting :(

Over-sweetened, unhealthy food is not a good investment...our shortsighted authorities prefer corporate profits now, which only leads to expensive medical care later.

As the French chef remarks looking at photos of north American school lunches: "that is not food...your poor children".

As for sitting in a civilized manner during meals...NOT the norm in this backward society.

The social attitudes & policies in all the countries profiled in this film are not only sophisticated but also sensible, and explain why the citizens in those countries are so much smarter than here.

Wake up USA and Canada! ... Rampant greed & individualism, not giving a F*** about your fellow citizens , i.e. the so-called 'american dream' is getting us nowhere.

Playing nice with others results in MORE wealth and happiness, not less. (Duh!)
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7/10
Commercial movie trying to make a political point.
PWNYCNY19 September 2017
To take this movie seriously, one has to accept its premise: that other countries, especially European countries, have anything to offer to the United States that's worth learning and adopting. That premise is hard to accept or defend. If anything, the rest of the world relies on the United States to solve problems, not the other way around. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, which occurred four and half decades after Europe ceased being the center of world power, the United States emerged as THE dominant country on the planet. That fact the movie omits. That omission seriously erodes the movie's credibility as a serious social commentary. Instead, Moore seems to revel in his dual role of American tourist/amateur cultural anthropologist. His admiration and interest in other cultures seem superficial and entirely staged, which is not surprising since the movie is not an academic project but rather a commercial product meant for an American audience and meant to promote a political agenda. This movie is another example of a movie maker using entertainment to make a political point. The formula certainly is not a new one. Whether it works in this case is up to the audience to decide.
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10/10
Best Moore film to date!
flitz35-633-62765026 April 2016
I learned a lot about the way other countries live. The two big things that I would consider moving abroad is the education system of Finland and the way Germany treats its citizens yes citizens as opposed to an underpaid over taxed employee living check to check wondering where y middle class status went. I won't get to much further with the average American frustration on corruption that has killed education here as well but this movie shed a lot of light on many issues

The one question this movie brought up and I guarantee there's no answer that wouldn't make you sick is "how do they do it?" and "why can't we live like that? Also "why can't my children get a better education without breaking the bank? Watch this movie with an open mind and if there's anyone who's not afraid to use there right of speech is Michael Moore
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7/10
Moore Serious than Usual
TheExpatriate70026 March 2016
Where to Invade Next marks something of a change for Michael Moore. Although it features his usual snark and left wing views, it takes a more serious approach to its subject than previous Moore outings. Moore visits various countries, mostly in Europe, to show government policies he thinks the United States should adopt. Among the countries he visits are Italy, France, Slovenia, Iceland, Finland, and Tunisia.

Rather than examining every aspect of the countries he visits, he focuses on one or two policies he thinks are especially important. For example, in Italy, he looks at the amount of vacation time allotted to workers and the strength of Italian unions. Conservative critics will inevitably complain that he fails to give consideration to the flaws of these countries. However, Moore himself admits in the film that none of the countries profiled are perfect.

Moreover, Moore at times goes out of his way to explore the most challenging aspects of the other countries' policies, including aspects most Americans wouldn't be comfortable with. For example, when discussing the Norwegian criminal justice system, he considers the light twenty-one year sentence given to Anders Brevik, the white supremacist terrorist who killed over seventy people. As Moore makes clear, even policies he supports have downsides.

Over all, the film is well worth watching and shows a more serious side of Moore as a filmmaker. That said, towards the end it starts to suffer from pacing issues, and the film could easily have been ten to fifteen minutes shorter. I personally would have ended the movie with the interview with the Icelandic banker who describes why she wouldn't have wanted to live in the United States. What she said summed up the film as a whole and would have made a perfect conclusion.
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2/10
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gurrakarlsson-9450114 February 2017
Warning: Spoilers
This is a review of the documentary ''Where to Invade Next'' (2015), by Michael Moore. This review will contain spoilers. In the documentary Moore ''invades'' some different countries in Europe. Here he shows things those countries has successfully brought in to their society, things he believe the U.S needs to improve in. He asks people how and why they are doing it this way, then he ''conquer'' these ideas and brings them back to America. In the end he reveal that all these ideas are from the beginning from USA and the European countries has just borrowed them from the U.S. The arguments that Michael Moore presents is according to me biased. He only shows the positive sides of the European countries and also leave out important information, not all that he says is true. Everyone hasn't 8 weeks of paid vacation in Italy and not all schools in France has great food, but this things strengthens Moore 's arguments and that's why he puts them in the film anyway. Of course he wants to deliver a message to the audience, he believe that the United States have some issues they need to work with and for all I know he might be right. But for me, the problem in this movie isn't whether or not he is right, but how he convince the audience of it. It is in my opinion not right to present a misleading picture of both the European countries and of the U.S. The people needs to have an honest chance to choose what to believe and then they must know the truth. To summarize, I think that this documentary is biased and Michael Moore isn't showing the whole truth. If you want to see this documentary you need to be critical to Moore's arguments. This isn't a documentary, it is propaganda. I wouldn't recommend this movie because it can give you a wrong and misleading picture of the world.
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10/10
Hooray for the Red, White and Blue
trescia-114 February 2016
Michael Moore seems a bit tired in this one. It's obvious that he's growing weary of trying to change the minds of a vast and brutal herd of mean people who won't change. They like people like themselves, and hate people who aren't like themselves. They want everyone to act, think and believe alike and they are afraid of anything that doesn't align with their stunted values. Moore is tired of talking to these people. He's old and he's tired, just like me. I can't wake them up. Mike can't wake them up. It's just too darn hard.

So stay asleep, you defenders of mean and cruel and nasty and rough. Better them than us, huh? Better not try to change anything or do anything better. America is best, by definition. A million stuffy offices full of bitter, politicking old ladies of both genders can't be wrong. A million corporate middle managers who do all the work and get none of the reward can't be wrong. A million schools full of poorly nourished, poorly educated kids can't be wrong. A million prisons full of sadistic guards can't be wrong. A million bankers laughing all the way to work can't be wrong. A million anything American can't be wrong, because we're free, except when we're wage slaves or actual slaves in prisons working for next to nothing. A million executioners killing people wrongly convicted of crimes by crooked DA's can't be wrong. A million sick people dying from lack of medical care--even under Obamacare--can't be wrong.

But a million Frenchmen are always wrong, because they're French.

Har har.
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8/10
Should be debating the issues brought out in this film
bobzmcishl8 January 2016
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Where To Invade Next is one of Moore's best because it is funny, has a lighter touch, but still hits the mark on raising questions about why America can't adopt some of the great things other countries are doing. Business does it all the time. It is called adopting "best practices." If we can steal good ideas from other companies, why not from other countries? That is the premise of the film and he takes us on a very photogenic tour around the world to countries that have much they could offer us here at home. Moore has a good eye and good wit in choosing citizens of these countries to get his point across. Much of the power of his film is in how he uses children to get across some of these ideas, like actually having good food to eat in the school cafeteria instead of junk. Children are again used to show how Germany teaches the lessons of the holocaust to their children to make sure it never happens again. Of all the moments in the film, that was the most powerful for me. It was totally unexpected and an emotional high point. I also enjoyed the discussion of the education system in Finland, where the focus is on learning and not on test taking, and not pushing tons of homework on the kids. Finland has also created an education model that stresses uniform equality of education. There is no such thing as shopping around for the best schools like we have in the U.S. All of the schools are equally good. That is a conversation we should be having here. Ideas that are more well known are also covered such as the high number of vacation days given in European countries, and time off for honeymoons, and having a baby. Labor unions are still powerful in Europe so the workers still have strong middle class wages and an actual voice on company boards. It was amazing to listen to CEO's from these companies talk about their employee concerns, something rarely heard here in the U.S. Moore is upfront about the cost of some of these services and yes, these countries have a higher tax burdens but when you consider what they get in return, it is well worth the money as Moore explains in the movie. The huge kicker for us is that so much of our tax dollars go into our military that other countries just don't have. In one European countries, the taxes taken out of worker paychecks are itemized in detail to explain what services they pay for. Here, as we all know, there is no breakout of how are tax money is used. The movies closes on how women can shape world events for the better and it is a very powerful message. In his subject interviews, they remind us that the practices employed in these countries are not new; most of them started in the U.S., such as the concept that executives could be put in jail for fraudulent practices as they did in Iceland. The Iceland prosecutor that put multiple banking executives in jail for the 2008 financial meltdown, got his ideas from what we did in the savings and loan scandal, where we put executives in jail. There is no doubt some of the practices in other countries may not work out all that great here given the scale of the United States and our cultural and ethnic diversity, but we aren't even trying. In this review I have only covered about half of the examples shown by Moore. We saw Where To Invade Next at the Palm Springs Film Festival and at the end of the movie, it got the greatest round of applause. Probably because non Michael Moore fans were not in attendance, but this is a well made movie and it shows the sophistication Moore has reached in his documentary making. I gave the movie 8/10 because about midway through I thought it lagged a little, but then picked up strongly at the end. This is an ideal movie to watch in a group and then discuss the concepts afterward.
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