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5/10
A fairly shallow look at
It is novel that this documentary follows a few men in the incel subculture over a period of a few years, but the film is mostly lacking narrative or statement.

Instead, we are presented with a collage of clips platforming the subjects' ideas. They do offer some insightful thoughts about consumer culture and the way young men are expected to behave in our society, but the men also spread some blatantly misogynistic or racist ideology, the latter presented caged in a flimsy veneer of "satire" (a term which those in the subculture misinterpret to mean transgressing for the sake of transgressing, rather than using irony to make a larger point).

Personally, I felt that the misogyny and racism were brushed off too easily in favour of humanising the subjects. That may be the best approach for reconciling these sorts of men with society, but it means that we end up with a fairly shallow look into the subculture that only briefly references the hate and extremism it has generated. You get the impression that the incel community is mostly a place for commiseration and that those within it eventually graduate to more typical lives. This is probably true of many, maybe even most, but it still misses an important fact.

At one point, we see a brief clip from the Toronto Van Attack (an act of misogynist terrorism that took place in Canada's largest city in 2018), but its roots in incel fora are not explained at all. The perpetrator was a member of the incel community, and he and other domestic terrorists like him have been idolized in some incel circles since. One could argue that this film is about the less extreme members of the community, and that the hateful acts of extreme factions are for another movie. Frankly though, to me it feels irresponsible to spend so much time in the subculture without directly addressing the fact that it has spawned domestic terrorism.

My advice: give this one a miss. If you want to know more about the incel subculture, listen to the CBC podcast about the Toronto Van Attack, I found it much more enlightening.
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4/10
Had potential, misses the mark
adamwinfield29 April 2020
The documentary is essentially a collection of scattered thoughts from its mainly stereotypically 'emo' characters and lacks a coherent narrative for the viewer to latch onto. There was an opportunity here to show mainstream viewers how interesting and even impactful this subculture really is, and only during Kantbot's segments do we get a frustratingly brief glimpse of this.

Because of the characters featured and the choice of style over substance (flashing Wojak up on the screen every time a loser says something sad is not deep), normie viewers will sadly go away with the same 'incel' caricature this documentary seemed as if it was attempting to humanize.
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1/10
Why was this made?
LubosV-881714 March 2021
I don't understand the point of this documentary. All of the characters were just normal twenty something year old's for the most part. The only difference was that the filmmaker and characters are comply unaware of how normal they really are so they just moped around and created one of the most boring pointlessly constructed films I've ever seen.
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10/10
Revealing and intriguing
ld-001822 May 2020
I am always interested in learning about the various groups and subcultures that have developed on the internet since the early 2000's. This film goes beyond the nerdy and depressing "incel" culture and really explores why youth are drawn to these communities. I appreciate the neutrality of this work. Give it a watch. For what it is 10/10
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1/10
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vica-7-7312365 February 2021
Featuring bunch of twitter addicts that spent one hour on /b/ one time and took the best memes they could find and posted on their twitter for likes. Sad excuse for a """documentary""".
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8/10
Generation defining for a specific type of people
seaneboy-355463 May 2020
You see what's in this documentary everyday when you've grown up with the internet. And not only does this doc cover the common mindsets and themes of this subculture well, it also sticks to the atmosphere of said subculture while explaining it. Its a painfully beautiful thing to see these people at these points in their lives but at least they're going through it together. But hey, we're all gonna make it. Right?
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2/10
My Review
adevet-6384111 December 2023
This may have been a sort-of grungy look into incel subculture and their rancid online homes. Unfortunately it'll have to be JUST a look, as all audio seems to be recorded on a 1987 walkman, and put into the documentary without levelling. Most of the people sound like they are in an _actual_ pit of despair, and speaking from the bottom while the mike is hung in another county. Combined with footage that wildly oscillates between 'fair' and 'filmed on a second hand iphone 5' this is borderline unwatchable and unusable as a podcast. How this got past selection on a fairly prestigious film festival is completely beyond me. It wouldn't even pass as a first-year filmclub test project.
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10/10
a time capsule touching the timeless
t-g-and-m-mowing28 April 2020
The portioning of one's online and offline personas, and the consequences of this, are well displayed in this documentary. It is a mirror for me in some ways, and probably a mirror for anyone who spends a good amount of time in online, pseudonymous communities.

On the one hand, these communities can lead one to be maladapted in the offline world where words and actions have much greater social consequences. Or these communities could really help you work through some issues and ideas that no one else wants to touch irl. The thing is, with a phone or pc, you ostensibly get to pick your poison. You can choose to follow nihilistic or despairing threads and accounts, or go in the opposite direction. But we do not always do what we want to do. Looking into the abyss has never been easier, nor more encouraged.

As anywhere else, there is a pressure to fit in, even when anonymous. So people, especially young, disenfranchised people, tend to take on the belief systems and attitudes of the strongest voices of in their online crowd. Boys are raising boys. There is an understanding and commiseration with one an others situation that is deep, but perhaps a lack of knowing how to improve that situation; an abundance of depressing data, and a lack of life experience. The typical old man mentor probably has plenty life experience, and forgot the data. Thesis, antithesis. Synthesis.

Ariel Pink did a good job with the score. Noticed some variations on a few classics. John Maus's music is always a treat.
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9/10
Sweeping the monsters from under the bed
In every other aspect of life people are treated as individuals and not held accountable for the actions of other loosely related people.

For the first time ever i think this topic has been covered with some humanity instead of purposefully trying to demonise the subjects.

The world seems increasingly more bland and alienating for a massive portion of the population, its liberating to actually have somebody give a voice to that and allow some of these people to speak.

The internet is definitely the modern equivalent of subculture, however vague and ill defined it might be. This film attempts to capture this point in history in a open minded and often beautiful way.

I hope in the future people view this Documentary in the same way that we view Penelope Spheeris' "Decline of Western Civilization". It definitely deserves it.
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10/10
An important step forward
Five years ago, when woke PC culture was the law of the land, the idea that a movie like this would get released- much less acclaimed by SXSW- would have been unheard of. Now, people are starting to understand that there is a very real problem of white men who feel abandoned by society and unable to compete in the modern world. The men seen in this documentary are not unlike the hikikomori, Japanese men who are unemployed and lead isolated, loveless, friendless lives.

PC culture would have us all believe that being a white male sets you up for life and that any claims a white man might have to being disaffected or depressed are to be chortled at and spat upon. This is not the case. There are a great many men out there who are falling through the cracks and failing to realize their potential. It is not an endorsement of Nazism or the KKK to say that we need to start taking this epidemic seriously and from the vantage of sympathy and support for these men, not casting them as demonic cyber villains out to destroy women and minorities.

Kudos to the filmmakers for letting these men have their say. May they find hope, success and love. May the world at large finally learn to have sympathy for them and stop dismissing them based on their sex and race. You know, sexism and racism.
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10/10
Let's goooooooooo
alexleemoyer2 May 2020
Amazing score, brilliant editing, compelling subject matter. A call back to the 70s cinema before documentary school of yore reminiscent of Ross McElwee's "Sherman's March" or Spheeris' "Decline of Western Civilization." An unflinching portrait of a little understood subculture.

We're all gonna make it.
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9/10
Interesting doc definitely worth a watch
jbeth-197802 May 2020
Interesting look at incels that isn't filtered through media sensationalism and fear mongering. Looks at the conditions that created the subculture and what the people inside actually have to say
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